Posted by
Tinsldr2 on Thursday, January 28, 2010 7:01:08 PM
But best line I heard tonight was from a lady in Philly on Hannity show.
Obama is a great conservationist. Nobody can RECYCLE old speeches like he can!! :)
Obama vs Reagan quoting the speech
Reagan: Today marks my first State of the Union address to you, a constitutional duty as old as our republic itself.
Obama: Our Constitution declares that from time to time, the President shall give to Congress information about the state of our union. For 220 years, our leaders have fulfilled this duty.
Interesting.....
Obama:These were the times that tested the courage of our convictions, and the strength of our union.
Ok at least he didn't say: "These are the times that try men's souls"
But this was most telling
Obama: "(the people don't understand).. why Washington has been unable or unwilling to solve any of our problems."
Reagan: In this present crisis, government is not the solution to our problem.
Did anyone else catch that difference??
The basic fundamental difference in Liberal thought and Conservative thought in those few lines.
Wow!!
Obama "So tonight, we will set a new goal: We will double our exports over the next five years"
Once we pass cap and tax and health care the only thing we will export is going to be double the speed of JOBS leaving the country!!.
on banks
Obama:"... we've recovered most of the money we spent on the banks. Most but not all.
To recover the rest, I've proposed a fee on the biggest banks. ....."
Why is he placing a FEE on banks that have PAID back the loans??
If I borrow money from a bank to start a business and the business takes off and I pay back the loans can the bank charge me a fee for having borrowed the money in the first place? How is that the American way?
Obama: Now, one place to start is serious financial reform. Look, I am not interested in punishing banks. I'm interested in protecting our economy. A strong, healthy financial market makes it possible for businesses to access credit and create new jobs. It channels the savings of families into investments that raise incomes. But that can only happen if we guard against the same recklessness that nearly brought down our entire economy.
We need to make sure consumers and middle-class families have the information they need to make financial decisions. (Applause.) We can't allow financial institutions, including those that take your deposits, to take risks that threaten the whole economy.
Now, the House has already passed financial reform with many of these changes. And the lobbyists are trying to kill it. But we cannot let them win this fight. And if the bill that ends up on my desk does not meet the test of real reform, I will send it back until we get it right. We've got to get it right. " ...
Anyone know what program or bill he is referencing ? I want the MEAT he gave us the Special Sauce!!
Obama on Schools
Obama:" And the idea here is simple: Instead of rewarding failure, we only reward success. Instead of funding the status quo, we only invest in reform --(cut fluff) ... And in this country, the success of our children cannot depend more on where they live than on their potential. "
But yet they Stopped School vouchers in DC and fight against charter schools. Very strange.
Then huge new spending programs announced,
more punish the banks ..Obama "To make college more affordable, this bill will finally end the unwarranted taxpayer subsidies that go to banks for student loans. (Say what?) ....
... And let's tell another one million students that when they graduate, they will be required to pay only 10 percent of their income on student loans, and all of their debt will be forgiven after 20 years –- and forgiven after 10 years if they choose a career in public service, ..."
So Borrow as much as you can, pay minimum balances and at end don't worry about paying back debts Joe Plumber will eat the cost???
Obama "And by the way, it's time for colleges and universities to get serious about cutting their own costs because they, too, have a responsibility to help solve this problem. "
So now he tells STATE schools how to run their business? Better to tell them to accept ROTC credits and Military recruiters on campus!!
There are only 4 Federal run colleges I am aware of (well 5 but one only does graduate level work)
on health care??
Obama : "according to the Congressional Budget Office -– the independent organization that both parties have cited as the official scorekeeper for Congress –- our approach would bring down the deficit by as much as $1 trillion over the next two decades. "
That only possible way to do that is because it would force MORE costs on states. And we already JUST had to bail out states with porkulus /Stimulus money!!
You cant possibly expect people to believe that you will add millions to the insurance rolls, increase things covered and provide the SAME level of care and it won't cost more but will save you money??
Notice how he slipped that in right after praising his wife for working with fat kids? Obama: "And by the way, I want to acknowledge our First Lady, Michelle Obama, who this year is creating a national movement to tackle the epidemic of childhood obesity and make kids healthier. (Applause.) Thank you. She gets embarrassed. (Laughter.)
See he gets the sheeple focused on her and everyone looks at her as she gets 'embarrassed" then he slips in the line about saving money by spending more??
That is what i meant on another thread about him being a gifted speech giver.
Obama "Still, this is a complex issue, and the longer it was debated, the more skeptical people became. I take my share of the blame for not explaining it more clearly to the American people."
Translation You people are to dumb to understand this and needed him to 'splain' it to you!! How is that for arrogance!!
Obama "And I know that with all the lobbying and horse-trading, the process left most Americans wondering, "What's in it for me?" No! that is what the politicians thought we KNOW what it means to us and WE DONT LIKE IT!
This was TRUE: Obama "By the time I'm finished speaking tonight, more Americans will have lost their health insurance." because DUH HE TALKED FOR A YEAR OR SOMETHING CLOSE!! lol
Military and Obama Speech
I know all the talk is on the Supremes and Alitos words. I still think he haid something other then "not true" maybe two words same syllables and second word was"---- YOU"
But Did anyone else see the look on the Joint Chiefs of Staff when they talked about doing away with Don't Ask Don't Tell. Even George Casey was PO'd.
Ok unrelated trivia....
During Gov McDonnell there was a Soldier in dress greens behind him.
Who knows his rank and what patch he had on his combat shoulder? :) Was a unit I was in as an LT ;) Answer below!!
Health care
Obama "Now, even as health care reform would reduce our deficit, it's not enough to dig us out of a massive fiscal hole in which we find ourselves. "
Ok there is no way health care reform will reduce deficit but if he is attempting to get out of the hole we are in why all the otehr spending?? When you are in a hole, you get out by not digging it DEEPER!!
Obama : "Starting in 2011, we are prepared to freeze government spending for three years. (Applause.) Spending related to our national security, Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will not be affected. "
Why wait?? First it is a drop in the bucket what he is proposing compared to his spending but this takes effect right after a new more Conservative Congress gets seated? And it is frozen so they cant reduce it or adjust it? Dang!! Are Sheeple Blind?? (answer yes)
Obama: We've already identified $20 billion in savings for next year.
A drop in the bucket. literally Like if you are hundred dollars in debt and raising spending costs everywhere it is cutting 2 cents out of the budget.
Obama: we will not continue tax cuts for oil companies, for investment fund managers, and for those making over $250,000 a year.
So raise gas prices and others taxes? The opposite of Reagan and even JF Kennedy!!
Now watch this, a hand wave an up and down head nod then Obama "Now, even after paying for what we spent on my watch"
Just where does this come from??? paying for his expenditures when 2051?
Obama cont "we'll still face the massive deficit we had when I took office. More importantly, the cost of Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security will continue to skyrocket. That's why I've called for a bipartisan fiscal commission,
Oh goody a BLUE RIBBON COMMISION that wont take long and we know that will be effective.
Since senate didn’t, OBAMA WILL!!
Obama "Now, yesterday, the Senate blocked a bill that would have created this commission. "
But his party has super majority still why did they block the bill?
Obama "So I'll issue an executive order that will allow us to go forward"
OMG is anyone else reading that?? I am running on no sleep and lot of coffee but WT heck? If congress didn’t authorize expenditure and committee formulation he will do it unilaterally??
I kept waiting to hear YOU LIE after this Gem.
"From some on the right, I expect we'll hear a different argument -– that if we just make fewer investments in our people, extend tax cuts including those for the wealthier Americans, eliminate more regulations, maintain the status quo on health care, our deficits will go away. The problem is that's what we did for eight years. "
heck no we spent like drunken Sailors for last 8 years. IT wasn’t that Revenues were to low it was that SPENDING was to HIGH!!
Cut that SPENDING and Lower taxes and stop punishing productivity and it WILL go away!!
Deficit of Trust and note to ST DEN
Obama "We face a deficit of trust -– deep and corrosive doubts about how Washington works that have been growing for years."
Was he channeling a Comedian? hello? how many whoppers has he told and flagrantly broken.. Any one remember Speaker PELOSI LAUGHING about broken promises of open CSPAN health care debates and his parties Louisiana Purchase?
Obama: "That's what I came to Washington to do. "
yes we know! he came to lie cheat and steal and tolerate those who do also. all turning us into socialists.
Obama "That's why -– for the first time in history –- my administration posts on our White House visitors online. "
Except for those not on the guest list, but no one not on the guest list could get in the Whitehouse ummm is it 4 times now????
Obama "That's why we've excluded lobbyists from policymaking jobs,"
except for the bunch he hired. was about ten at last count.
obama "But we can't stop there." Translation, He has more destruction to wreck....
Supreme Court and Earmarks
Obama "With all due deference to separation of powers, last week the Supreme Court" .....
tranlation "I am a lawyer who worked as a lawyer for MAYBE a total of two years but i didnt really practice law but i know the LAW better the the Supreme Court Justices that practiced and studied it and were noted for life time service in the law and your ruling will hurt me the supreme leader.
As justice Alito said "Not True" Or was it F$%& YOU
Obama "And I'd urge Democrats and Republicans to pass a bill that helps to correct some of these problems." because the constitution doesnt matter and we can just write other bills that will tie up the courts until after he is out of office.
Obama "I'm also calling on Congress to continue down the path of earmark reform. "
Does reform meaning add thousands of new earmarks and blatant bribes?? how many Earmarks are on Sen McCains tab?
Hmmmm "Today (March 03, 2009) Sen. John McCain failed in his effort to strip thousands on earmarks from a government funding bill moving through Congress. His amendment would also have reduced the funding for several government departments to last year's lower spending levels."
Obama "Tonight, I'm calling on Congress to publish all earmark requests on a single Web site before there's a vote,"
Yes because posting them there a minute before the vote will do a lot of good.
HEY MR PRESIDENT HOW ABOUT CALLING FOR AN END TO EARMARKS@!!! WASNT THAT A CAMPAIGN PROMISE?
on Sen Brown and relitigation
Obama "So, no, I will not give up on trying to change the tone of our politics. I know it's an election year. And after last week, it's clear that campaign fever has come even earlier than usual. "
He couldn't even mention the historic event directly? yet he wants Bipartisanship?
Obama "Sadly, some of the unity we felt after 9/11 has dissipated. We can argue all we want about who's to blame for this, but I'm not interested in re-litigating the past."
but he is interested in litigating the CIA agents and possibly Cheyne!
Now this one sounds great!! If reagan or bush had said it we would have cheered!!
Obama "I know that all of us love this country. All of us are committed to its defense. So let's put aside the schoolyard taunts about who's tough. Let's reject the false choice between protecting our people and upholding our values. Let's leave behind the fear and division, and do what it takes to defend our nation and forge a more hopeful future -- for America and for the world. "
lets do what it takes as long as we Miranda terrorists? Really??
on Terrorists /mil
Obama "Since the day I took office, we've renewed our focus on the terrorists who threaten our nation."
Yes like attacking the CIA, Disgruntled Vets, Tea party goers does he mean focusing on those kind of terrorists?
Ok OBAMA has attacked and killed a lot of AL-Qaeda operatives and upper level guys. i will give him that in fairness. But thats what is so sick because at the otehr hand he makes it harder for the Military and CIA to do their jobs.
Obama "And in the last year, hundreds of al Qaeda's fighters and affiliates, including many senior leaders, have been captured or killed -- far more than in 2008."
We have CORRECTLY avoided posting enemy body counts. That was the Viet nam game. Number of us vs them. That is not what this war is about.
Obama "We will have all of our combat troops out of Iraq by the end of this August."
Exactly on the schedule that Bush signed with al-malaki to include the hand over of baghdad last year,
Obama "That's why we made the largest increase in investments for veterans in decades -- last year. (Applause.)"
Applause included The Joint Chiefs of Staff to Include Adm Mike Mullins and Townhall favorite :) Gen George Casey (my wife loves his wife but that is another story)
But when Obama said : This year, I will work with Congress and our military to finally repeal the law that denies gay Americans the right to serve the country they love because of who they are. (Applause.)
That applause DID NOT include Anyone in the uniform in evidence.
Of course there was this OBAMA (this one courtesy of Randy In GA) "We
find unity in our incredible diversity, drawing on the promise
enshrined in our Constitution: the notion that we're all created equal,
that no matter who you are or what you look like, if you abide by the
law you should be protected by it, if you adhere to our common values
you should be treated no different than anyone else."
Where in the
Constitution does it mention that all men are created equal? Could the
All-Knowing One be referring to the Declaration of Independence? Some
genius.
Oh and it was a Staff Sargent with an 11th Signal Brigade patch on at the republican Gov McDonnell rebuttal right behind the GOV.
RepublicanResponse was Ok
Not super great but OK.
Was done quickly after the speech and limited to ten minutes so not abundant prep time to refer directly to the speech.
Speech included "We must enact policies that promote entrepreneurship and innovation so America can better compete with the world. What government should not do is pile on more taxation, regulation and litigation that kill jobs and hurt the middle class.
It was Thomas Jefferson who called for "a wise and frugal government which shall leave men free to regulate their own pursuits of industry and shall not take from the mouth of labor the bread it has earned." He was right."
And
"The president's partial freeze announced tonight on discretionary spending is a laudable step, but a small one. The circumstances of our time demand that we reconsider and restore the proper limited role of government at every level."
and
. "But most Americans do not want to turn over the best medical care system in the world to the federal government.
Republicans in Congress have offered legislation to reform health care, without shifting Medicaid costs to the states, without cutting Medicare, and without raising your taxes.
And we will do that by implementing commonsense reforms, like letting families and businesses buy health insurance policies across state lines and ending frivolous lawsuits against doctors and hospitals that drive up the cost of your health care."
and
"This foreign terror suspect was given the same legal rights as a U.S. citizen and immediately stopped providing critical intelligence.
As Senator-elect Scott Brown has said, we should be spending taxpayer dollars to defeat terrorists, not to protect them."